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Dodge is more important than block. Dodge is for real tanking. Blocking is for trash. Paladins want more consideration for main tanking, not trash tanking, and therefore it is better for paladins to get dodge. The most important part of all this is the fact that over 100% dodge/parry/block, block is the first thing you lose. Dodges avoid all damage. Blocks reduce the damage by a fraction. Increased blocking would just scale with new bosses hitting harder, which means you are still taking a lot of damage.

For AoE tanking 5-mans, yes, blocking is nice.

Комментарий от Viertel

You are not a Warrior. Gearing yourself like one is a fallacy, and again, you're losing something you need more than the masses would have you believe; threat. It isn't as high as you'd like to think it to be once you step outside of Karazhan and actually start to tank monsters that are NOT Undead or Demons.

You're deluded into thinking dodge is hard to get; it isn't. Block is harder since the filler pieces are more dodge and def (surprise surprise) oriented, with some parry thrown in for flavor here and there, and block is often reserved for the five major pieces. It has been this way in vanilla WoW and it continutes now (unless you are a blacksmith, and can make items such as Red Havoc Boots, etc.).

Loading up on something that's easily obtainable and lends towards streaky damage intake -- moreso than Warriors because Paladins require so much more -- is foolish. It's harder to heal a Paladin that's tanking loaded up with so much more avoidance, simply because it's so streaky.

As far as the "real tanking" comes up, right now Protection Paladin isn't where it needs to be for complete MT positions in a guild that's extremely open to experimentation. Thinking like a Warrior doesn't help the cause, because you are not one.

Yes, you need dodge -- I never said a Tankadin DIDN'T. But when it comes back to bite you in the ass because your avoidance is so streaky it affects how much mana you return, or die due to the avoidance streaks failing you, you have no one to blame but yourself.

Комментарий от Finnias

Lad574 says:

"...therefore the more block rating you have, the less damage you take overall..."- and -"Theistica, please go learn more about pally tanking before you try to say anything about it. It is quite obvious you still have a lot to learn."

Loading up on Block Rating only helps you avoid crushing blows until a point. Once you get to the point where you no longer take Crushing Blows with Holy Shield up, further Block Rating isn't going to reduce your damage at all, because Block chance is going to be the first thing pushed off the combat table after Crushing Blows are pushed off.

If you keep loading up on Block Rating past this, then the only time you will get benefit from the Block Rating is going to be when Holy Shield (or perhaps Redoubt) is not up. When it's not up, the Block Rating is only going to help you against normal hits, unless you have some amazing amount of Block Rating to give you another 30% block chance.

Once you are uncrushable, the only way to reduce your damage further would be by increasing Block Value, Armor, or by increasing pure avoidance (Dodge, Parry, or Miss chance). Dodge probably the best way to do this, by the effectiveness for the itemization cost.

Alternatively, instead of reducing the incoming damage, you can increase your capacity by to take the damage by increasing your stamina.

Finally, dead tanks produce far less threat than living ones, regardless of how much block rating they have.

I can't help but think maybe you need to take your own advice lad 574.

Комментарий от Thels

Gotta agree with Finnias there. By the time you're able to loot these items, you should've accumulated enough gear that you're CB immune with only a tidbit of Block Rating here and there as extra on gear, unlike pre-Karazhan.

Heck, I only have 1 item beyond Karazhan in my tanking gear (Justicar Shoulders) and I'm not wearing any items for their Block Chance save for the Heroic badge helm which also has a lot of other nice stuff and the Libram of course. Rest is all Defense/Dodge and I'm still crush immune.

Gearing up for crush immunity is something pre- and during Karazhan. Your gear gives enough avoidance when you hit Hyjal Summit and Black Temple.

Комментарий от Helot

While Block is good, it should really only be used as a stepping stone to get to Crushing Blow Immunity. It's useful, yes, but not as useful as pure-avoidance stats.

We're both blessed and cursed with avoidance. Blocked attacks generate more threat, while avoided one's generate non. Blocked attacks reduce damage taken by X, while avoided one's reduce it completely. Compared to a warrior, where a blocked attack generates rage, which he uses to generate threat, and where avoided attacks don't generate any rage. We can't 'Mana-starve' ourselfs with avoidance, and can only reduce the threat generated by Holy Shield and Ret Aura (if you use it), by gaining alot of pure avoidance.

Pre-Kara, Block = Awesome. Mobs don't hit for more then 2-4k, and getting ~500-800 blocking means your reducing a large percentage of the damage you could take. Post-Kara, Block = Filler. Mobs that hit for 4-8k min, and 10-12k max means your block value becomes less and less valuable, the large the damage taken is. If you could get 1-2k Block Value, it might be more significant, till then, it's CB immunity Filler.

Комментарий от amrantehtank

Dodge/Parry = Good.Block rating + Value = Good up to a point. Blocking should NEVER be stacked purely.

Комментарий от jonathoncottrell

my god, a paladin set that doesn't make them look like a Saturday morning cartoon hero/villain

Комментарий от chunkhead

the blood elf picture is incorrect, their set has a different hue (gray, red, gold? i cant really tell), not a blue one. you can see the set on all 4 races/genders (WITH MATCHING BOOTS! for some reason.) here>> http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/items/armorsets/ Just go Tier 6 Raid Set, Paladin, etc.not that anyone didnt already know all that, just thought id be handy and post a nice link :D

Комментарий от Meloku

The problem with paladin threat when stacking dodge is that whenever you miss/parry/dodge an attack, you don't spend a holy shield charge - and each charge gives over 200% threat done in damage - which can add up to quite a bit the longer a fight takes.

So as itemization improves, pallies generate less threat (sans bonus spell damage) because they block less.

Комментарий от Kainy

Just out of curiosity, is the 2 set bonus additive, or multiplicative?

As in with this set, is spiritual attunement suddenly 20% of healing and completely ridiculously awesome, or just 11% and slightly better?

Комментарий от Spectacular66

Dodge is only good against hard-hitting mobs as you wouldnt want to repeatedly get hit for 5000+. It shouldn't be stacked purely. The same goes for Block Rating. Paladins gain aggro from being hit unlike Warriors, who have an arsenal of abilities like Devastate, Revenge and Shield Slam for uber threat.

We benefit from Block (although it becomes a lot less useful as you progress) so getting some Block Value wouldn't hurt. Parry is another thing but unlike Dodge you get a small speed boost on your next weapon swing and you avoid all that damage that could have possibly hit you.

As mentioned above your only worry is becoming "Uncrushable" and until you reach that point stack Block Rating/Parry/Dodge and from there it's all about stacking that Stamina, which allows you to live a lot longer :P

Комментарий от jackbrembo

Hey guys,which are the boots to cpmplete the set ???ty !

Комментарий от Gnomey

this set looks awsome :O the 2-set will keep u out of mana concerns, n the 4-set improves that as u dont have to spam concecration as much

Комментарий от RyuSenshi

in patch 2.4 there will be 3 more pieces added to this setthose pieces will drop in sunwell plateau. the new 25 man raid with kil'jaeden as last boss

Комментарий от Dalus

Chestpiece drops off Illidan Stormrage in Black Temple (End boss)

Gloves drop off Azgalor in Mount Hyjal (Fourth boss)

Helm drops off Archimonde in Mount Hyjal (End boss)

Leggings drop off The Illidari Council in Black Temple (Eighth boss)

Shoulders drop off Mother Shahraz in Black Temple (Seventh boss)

Bracers drop off Kalecgos in Sunwell Plateau (First boss)

Belt drops off Brutallus in Sunwell Plateau (Second boss)

Boots drop off Felmyst in Sunwell Plateau (Third boss)

Комментарий от Nabeelsahi

How can we get this set of paladin can anyone tell me?And can anyone tell me how u guys can c where u can get this stuff?

Комментарий от StopPokingMe

Thank you for being one of the only people to take the time to comment usefull information in here. Some people like to read information to help them in game while others want to flame all other classes........ It seems that people want to argue the effectiveness of a Pally MT. Pallies can tank get over it. Last I saw, there are a shortage of tanks so quit bitching that someone actually took the time to get beat on repeatedly so you can do your dps at range cause you're way to squishy to take a Stomp + MH + OH + MH + MH from Brutallus.Pallies hold aggro, Warriors hold aggro. Who Cares as long as they hold it.

Комментарий от Chronalis

Yeah, gl having a warrior tank the hyjal trash easier than a paladin tank would

Комментарий от flyingtoastr

A boss would have to attack once every 1.25 seconds and you would have to block every one of those attacks to lose Holy Shield charges as the spell was coming off cooldown. With a 1.25 second swing timer you will lose the eighth charge just as the cooldown is up, so the boss would have to be attacking with a 1.11 (repeating) second swing timer or faster to actually strike through your HS charges (9 attacks in 10 seconds).

Assuming you are uncrushable, you should be running around with another 70-75% mitigation/avoidance just on your gear, in addition to Redoubt (over 9 attacks it has a 61% chance to proc). Any dodges/parries/misses would basically give you an extra Holy Shield charge until the cooldown. For example, if you dodged 2 attacks in a 10 second period the boss would have to swing 11 times to hit through HS, or have a .9 second swing timer.

Is it possible to be crushed? Yes. Will it happen? Not very often, and as long as no one is attacking from the front you should be fine.

Комментарий от rikimarutenchu

To all those who made comments on the value of block rating; remember, there is an aura that nerfs dodge in Sun P, so the majority of block rating falling on the 3 Sun P pieces are a mitigation compensation for Blizzard. They really backed themselves into a corner with the whole crushing blows thing, it may have to go away in WotLK.

Комментарий от agnara

Unless aoe-farming black morass :)

Комментарий от mydadnoob

3 parts - Black Temple3 parts - Sunwell Plateau2 parts - Hyjal Summit

chestguard - Illidan Stormrage (Black Temple)leggings - Illidari Council (Black Temple)pauldronds - Mother Shahras ( Black Temple)helm - Archimonde (Hyjal Summit)gloves - Azgalor (Hyjal Summit)bracers - Grand Warlock Alythess, Lady Sacrolash,Sathrovarr the Corruptor (Sunwell Plateau)boots - Felmyst ,Grand Warlock Alythess, Lady Sacrolash (Sunwell Plateau)belt - Brutallus, Grand Warlock Alythess ,Lady Sacrolash (Sunwell Plateau)

GOOD LUCK

Комментарий от StopPokingMe

Viertel Wrtoe

"You are not a Warrior. Gearing yourself like one is a fallacy, and again, you're losing something you need more than the masses would have you believe; threat."

Correct we aren't Warriors. You do realize that you are in the T6 Pally forum area right. Our gear is similar in some respects I'll give you that, but last I checked there isn't a class in the game that would like to take lots of damage from an attack. Threat, hmm Consecrate can only be resisted on the first tick, holy shield gets 8 charges and our taunts hit more targets. Righteous Fury builds massive aggro, and does holy shield. Threat is high enough and can hit more targets. A warrior might be able to generate threat faster on a single target but holding it?????

"once you step outside of Karazhan and actually start to tank monsters that are NOT Undead or Demons."

Good point because pallys build more threat than warriors against undead and demons

"You're deluded into thinking dodge is hard to get; it isn't."

Pure avoidance isn't what Pallys are going for, Uncrittable, uncrushable yes, pure avoidance, No

"Block is harder since the filler pieces are more dodge and def (surprise surprise) oriented, with some parry thrown in for flavor here and there, and block is often reserved for the five major pieces. It has been this way in vanilla WoW and it continutes now (unless you are a blacksmith, and can make items such as Red Havoc Boots, etc.)."

Block rating or value, what are you referring to? In vanilla WoW prot pally's didnt get big increases in the right areas, but now, we aren't playing vanilla wow, are we? Gear with the right stats +spell damage, +def, +stam, and a little avoidance cause blocking builds more aggro. btw a Prot pally BS would want the boots of the protector in most cases.

"Loading up on something that's easily obtainable and lends towards streaky damage intake -- moreso than Warriors because Paladins require so much more -- is foolish. It's harder to heal a Paladin that's tanking loaded up with so much more avoidance, simply because it's so streaky."

Once again we aren't going for pure avoidance

"As far as the "real tanking" comes up, right now Protection Paladin isn't where it needs to be for complete MT positions in a guild that's extremely open to experimentation. Thinking like a Warrior doesn't help the cause, because you are not one."

Hmmm, I dont know what you are thinking, a good prot pally has a lot more tools to play with to keep other guildmates from pulling aggro, like Blessings of Protection, Salvation, and a Hammer of justice. Using those tools should reaffirm the fact that we aren't thinking like Warriors. Using those tools makes us a MORE viable MT. Of course thats my opinion and others may disagree.

"Yes, you need dodge -- I never said a Tankadin DIDN'T. But when it comes back to bite you in the ass because your avoidance is so streaky it affects how much mana you return, or die due to the avoidance streaks failing you, you have no one to blame but yourself."

Agreed dodge is nice but not what we are going for once again. Some tankadins argue differently, but imo the main pieces of the gear give enough where you don't need to stack it.

Maybe you should go somewhere else and flame other classes. You won't find me flaming in the Warrior T6 area, or bragging how I can beat any warrior 1vs1 in a duel. It's juvenile. If a Pally can tank well and a warrior can tank well then great, if you suck L2P. A bad player can make any class look horrible.

Комментарий от flyingtoastr

All Sunwell bosses (with the exception of the Shadow Twin for Eredar Twins) can not crush either so it really is a non-issue.

Block is good for reaching uncrushable. After that you want to actually load up on stats that give appreciable amounts of effective health.

Комментарий от gbeez

having 5-10% more dodge/parry/miss is not a big deal as Paladin tanks gear in progression, because Holy Shield is no more than 30% of a Paladin tank's threat. Half of a Paladin's threat (when tanking really anything above Karazhan) will come from Judgements and Consecration alone, which is increased by spell damage much faster than one less shield block every 10 charges decreases threat.

Not to mention that the other half of paladin threat includes regular melee, Seal of Righteousness, Avenger's Shield (on certain fights), Exorcism (against Demons/Undead), Retribution Aura, Darkmoon Card: Vengeance, and Holy Shield. It's hardly viable to say that one less charge on one ability (which happens to have one of the worst spell damage coefficients) is going to undermine paladin threat completely.

The only real ISSUE is that currently Paladin tanks don't have a stat that increases avoidance and threat at the same time (as block value does for warriors), thus warrior gear requires less stats to the same gear (we need spell damage in addition to everything warriors need) to be equal.

It's also worth noting that in my full heroic badge / ZA epic gear, I am at full mana on all fights that I tank (although some do require Judgement of Wisdom). These include Doom Lord Kazzak, the Lurker Below, Hydross the Unstable, Fathom-Lord Karathress, Leotheras the Blind, and Void Reaver (although yes, I do go OOM quite quickly when offtanking VR, it's irrelevant to this post).

Комментарий от gbeez

this gear for all that want toknow is tankadin geari had a bit of trouble looking for tank gear for my pally so i thought id say it

Комментарий от FinnrSlayer

Tier 6 For Dummies!(Where they drop)Head Piece - Hyjal Summit - ArchimondeGloves Piece - Hyjal Summit - AzgalorShoulders Piece - Black Temple - Mother ShahrazLeggings Piece - Black Temple - Illidari Council Chest Piece - Black Temple - Illidan StormrageBracer Piece - Sunwell Plateau - KalecgosBelt Piece - Sunwell Plateau - BrutallusBoots Piece - Sunwell Plateau - Felmyst

______ of The Forgotten Conquerer - Priest - Paladin - Warlock ______ of The Forgotten Protector - Warrior - Hunter - Shaman______ of The Forgotten Vanquisher - Mage - Rogue - Druid

You can exchange the Tokens to gear at Enterance of Hyjal Summit.Also Exchangable for Season 2 Parts or S3 BG parts (in the new daily island)

Комментарий от fishish

"As far as the "real tanking" comes up, right now Protection Paladin isn't where it needs to be for complete MT positions in a guild that's extremely open to experimentation."

Tankadins have MT all end game bosses as of 2007.

"It isn't as high as you'd like to think it to be once you step outside of Karazhan and actually start to tank monsters that are NOT Undead or Demons."

Totally relavent as to who the mob is attacking first. yes, druids and warriors will outperform on a single target IF its a head on race, but if the mob is attacking the tankadin, haha, good luck trying to get it of him w/o taunt. and serously if you use to taunt to get agro of a tank you are a attention $%^&*.

Lastly to those who flame about tankadins, dont raid with them. and gl in hyjal.

Комментарий от huan

am i going to be the first to say that this is the first actually cool looking set we get since S2?? no more of that pally ranger garbage, yay

Комментарий от Pickle7

pain in the but to get but well worth it the stats are really nice

Комментарий от mrcoffee09

Maybe block might not remove as much damage coming to your hp bar as a dodge or parry, but its a good portion of paladin threat. Paladins don't do nearly as much TPS without the mob attacking them. Aggro is a wonderful thing for tanking.

Комментарий от apeiron

They really backed themselves into a corner with the whole crushing blows thing, it may have to go away in WotLK.

You, sir, are a prophet. Recent news from Bliz has confirmed this.

Комментарий от Malsherz

mainly in MH i believe a paladin tank, up to archi ofc is more usefully than a warrior tank.

And Azgalor, his AoE silence would kill our threat generation, maybe more than Maiden's. Then again I've never attempted to tank Az and I hate tanking Maiden.

Комментарий от Dorminus

It's like staring into a mirror =)

Комментарий от Shorty

The latest build in Beta has replaced the +spelldamage on these with +str, bringing them in line with WoTLK itemization.

Комментарий от Nevin540

All the pieces now have strength on them, which is going to become a key stat to stack in WotLK.

Комментарий от Pwrswitchd

Is this set for tank pallies?

Комментарий от MashedIdiot

Are you honestly asking that?

First of all:

Classes: Paladin
Tag: Tier 6 Raid Set

And second is the defensive stats.

Комментарий от Tankadinpewpew

Updated in 3.0.2. Str is now part of the armor stats. Oooh, its shiny and sparkly :D

Комментарий от Smierg

Honestly, you sound like a warrior that's too high on himself. I've tanked far better than any warrior I've ever seen. As a rogue or mage, I always pull aggro off a warrtard tank but very rarely does anyone pull off of my pally. Try not to sound like such a pompous ass next time. Thank you.

Комментарий от jourdemavia

Ok dont flame me but Wowhead says this is a Tier 6 raid set witch i have no doubt BUT i also have been look and the Wow Item set page (you have to change the set to pally and tier 6 raid set the link only leads to the item set page) and it says its a Vendor item? im very very confused anyone know why it says that? do they have to update the page? and also as a side note:

the drop rate for the Chest peice sucks! ive ran the damn thing for 2 weeks now at least 50 time and i still havent gotten it

Комментарий от lovelywaz

the drop rate for the Chest peice sucks! ive ran the damn thing for 2 weeks now at least 50 time and i still havent gotten it

I wish there was a "n00b's fill in the blanks test" to pass b4 anyone could post on wowhead.

Комментарий от wafafadaawger

You should have everything. Period. And Bazzz's point (which is where this debate began) was that this set has 1 more stam than the warrior set. Stam is necessary for all tanks. He didn't say anything about dodge or block or parry. In fact, I agree with him wholeheartedly: Thank you blizzard.

Комментарий от Omgomgesiuol

Pretty sad to see that while the Prot Warrior T6 2set was actually buffed slightly (unless they've changed it) this one was actually rendered useless.Meh, I guess Prot Pallies got enough this patch, still.

And incase you don't know what I mean, Spiritual Attunment was removed in 4.0.

Комментарий от Synthunas

Tier 6 Paladin, Warlock and Preist Armour Token Drops.

Chestguard of the Forgotten Conqueror

Illidan Stormrage<The Betrayer>Black Temple - 66%

Pauldrons of the Forgotten Conqueror

Mother ShahrazBlack Temple - 66%

Leggings of the Forgotten Conqueror

Gathios the ShattererBlack Temple - 34%

Veras DarkshadowBlack Temple - 34%

Lady MalandeBlack Temple - 29%

Gloves of the Forgotten Conqueror

AzgalorHyjal Summit 62%

Helm of the Forgotten Conqueror

ArchimondeHyjal Summit - 68%

Belt of the Forgotten Conqueror

BrutallusSunwell Plateau - 66%

Grand Warlock AlythessSunwell Plateau - 17%

Lady SacrolashSunwell Plateau

Bracers of the Forgotten Conqueror

Grand Warlock AlythessSunwell Plateau - 12%

Lady SacrolashSunwell Plateau - 11%

Sathvarr the CorruptorSunwell Plateau - ?%

Boots of the Forgotten Conqueror

FelmystSunwell Plateau - 59%

Lady SacrolashSunwell Plateau - 16%

Grand Warlock AlythessSunwell Plateau - 13%

Комментарий от Hallower

We're talking about Tier 5 here not Tier 6.

Комментарий от RarndCrow

For those who collect this set for RP purposes and are struggling to find some REAL boots to go with this set (the "set" boots are ugly and don't match) - Выложенные жемчугом сапоги are a perfect match for this set! Reply to this message if you have a better belt to go with the set!

Комментарий от ScanHD

For the 4.3 Transmogrification, I would pref Герб Солнца and as weapon I would say Правосудие Света - This fits incredibly good.

Комментарий от CrysisMK2

It is unfortunate for those of us looking to transmogrify that the boots, belt, and bracers do not match the rest of the set. I am hard pressed to choose between the BT/Hyjal pieces + matching non set pieces or going for the whole set in the spirit of completion-ism.

Комментарий от desibrain

Any suggestion for tabard with this set? I would really like to get tabard of light bringer, but it has high requirement to obtain.

Комментарий от Julepuul

Whats the best looking shield and one or main handed mace on this set?

Комментарий от Downhillfaun

A good cape for this set is and a good sword is as well a mace would be. You can get the boots from the set or use a drop such as

Комментарий от amorgan28

Great looking set...have the Sunward Crest already to match it and looking to farm Maladeth and Light's Justice, but is there a good 1h axe match for this set?

Комментарий от Hamboyten

I use this set for transmog myself. The belt and boots to go with this set for match looks are: Ремень надежды Воинский пояс возмещения, Наголенники танцующего в приливе Выложенные жемчугом сапоги. Those items go perfectly with the set, I personally prefer Королевский рыцарский щит Лордерона with the set and any sword/axe/mace, with some yellow on it make for a nice pair. I got all pieces on my first run through so best of luck for anyone want to look sexy. ;)

Комментарий от wskylar21

None of you blood elfs even deserve to be paladins -.- OR those stupid buffalo totally f's up the lore

Комментарий от wskylar21

Stupid blood elfs and buffalo being able to be paladins makes no sense lore wise but whatever.

Комментарий от Bogdanov89

Paladins looking to obtain this armor can do so rather easily - all except 3 bosses died very easily to my paladin's mighty attacks!

All the pieces drop from bosses (or from trash) in Black Temple, Battle for Mount Hyjal (Caverns of Time) and the Sunwell.

As a lvl90 (ilvl 489) the only bosses i had any trouble with were:

1. Brutallus in Sunwell - i suggest going Prot for this one, he stacks a mighty debuff on you that will make him hit for over 200,000 damage. Divine Shield removes the debuff.

2. Felmyst in Sunwell - she has an air phase where she spews green poison in a straight line across the battlefield. If this hits you it will mind control you, and if you are the only one in the raid it will instantly kill you. I suggest going Retri for mass dps.

3. Gurtogg Bloodboil in Black Temple - go Prot for this one, he stacks a nasty bleed debuff on you that requires constant self healing, and a ~6 second stun (can't be trinketed). Divine Shield removes the debuff.

* There is a fragile ranger trash mob in Sunwell called Slayer that applies a physical DoT that drains a % of your max health.You MUST either remove the debuff or heal - it does over 100% max health damage.

I suggest taking talents/glyphs that will provide you with the most burst - secondary option would be self healing.

NOTE: For some unknown reason, the set's boots and belt (it is red instead of blue) do NOT go with the looks of the rest of the Tier 6 set. You need to obtain non-set items called "Pearl Inlaid Boots" and "Girdle of Hope" to have the adequate blue looking set.Also note that the set's Gloves fully hide the Bracers - as far as looks go, this set's bracers will never be visible if you are also "wearing" the set's gloves.

Комментарий от Jornak

If you're like me and don't like the boot-model, I found Primal Aspirant's Warboots of Cruelty have the same color as in the blue-ish parts of the set and look allright together with it (sorry, only for Alliance. The Horde boots are more red-ish in color, sadly).

EDIT: The Horde Boots might fit to the PvP Version of Tier 6, since the blue is replaced with red.

Комментарий от Paladont

For transmog purposes, I use Предел ночи for the cape. The colors and pattern match perfectly! If you look at the WoWhead link and check the "same model as" tab you can see some other boss-drop capes that have the same design if you don't have the tailoring level for it.

ru.wowhead.com

Одеяния Светоносного - Набор предметов

Even if you throw a +10 spellcrit gem into every one of those sockets (yes, even the blue sockets) which would require about 100k honour even after the patch, you would end up with 192 spellcrit rating. This would make sure you aren't able to use http://www.wowhead.com/?item=25890 (For spellcrit), but that's besides the point.

The most you're going to be able to get from the rest of your gear is 200. Tops. Max. That's assuming both trinkets are X'ri's gift and Shaffar's Horn, too.

So with max crit gear, you're going to have +392 spellcrit. So you have 4-5% more spellcrit than me, putting you at 27-28%.

You get +11% from talents in HL. You're at 39%. You have the set bonus, so 44%. Buffed you might get 45-46%. You have the best gear in the game. :)

Anyways, yes, this set is hot, particularily the bonus.

Комментарий от Ragnor

Well itemized they have listened to feedback post illumination nerf and reduced spell crit slightly and added some mana/5sec. The helm needs some work though, it could do with loosing 10 crit rating and gain some mana/5sec. This is a return back to the T3 design which I much prefer over the season 1 arena set design and T4/T5

Комментарий от Beastkiller

I have a good Gem list for these (not inc spell crit gems though)

4 Royal Nightseye. Fill in the Blue gem slots5 Dawnstones (any dawnstone u like to put in)1 Red gem (anyone that is good for healing and etc)1 Meta gem called Bracing Earthstorm http://www.wowhead.com/?item=25897

Then you get the bonus from this Meta gem and the gem set bonuses on this set and the Dawnstone can have int or spell crit. So this is what I have come up with for this set. So

80+ healing (NIghtseyes and Bracing Earthstorm and (this is my recommendation Teardrop living Ruby)

8 MP5 (Nightseyes)

2% threat reduction (Bracing Earthstorm)

8x5 Spell crit rating = 40 spell crit rating = 4% spell crit (Gleaming dawnstone) This might not be correctly accurate.

or 8x5 intellect =40 int = 40x15=600 mana (Brilliant Dawnstone) I havent calculated the spell crit from int. Dont know the value of intellect it requires for 1%. sorry that part i cant really answer.

If you have any comments about this please reply and help me to make this more correct.

EDIT: I haven't seen the "new" gems that is going to be in the patch. And if you think this calulation needs a bit more spell crit or healing or Mp5 so please tell me and this gem set i have posted is only if you want to use these gems. Im only trying to help you all pick good gems for your sets. And i agree that this set (the pala set) has some good set bonuses (set piece bonuses)

GL and have a nice day.

Комментарий от Viper007Bond

Video of all Tier 6 armor sets in action: http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?topic=97.0

Комментарий от saacob

how do i get this???

Комментарий от Elvaan

where did u get these set from?

Комментарий от MasterLoco

4 blue sockets = awsome.

Blue: 4 Royal Nightseye's = 36 healing & 8mp5sYellow: 4 Dawnstones = 32 spellcritMeta: 1 Insightful Earthstorm Diamond = http://www.wowhead.com/?item=25901

For a second there I was thinking about ignoring the socketbonus on the chest but spellcrit still ownz hard. I don't think it will be a problem at all to get arround 30-35% spellcrit (35-40% on holy light) without gimping your healing & mp5s to much.

Комментарий от Kingleonardo

50% spell crit on Holy Light is attainable quite easily (including the 5% t6 bonus), but will require you to stack spell crit gems. You would also have to choose spell crit/spell dmg items over the traditional heal/mp5 items. For example, the only spell crit cloak that is decent for a paladin stacking crit is Brute Cloak of the Ogre Magi (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=28797). The other capes are either massive +heal (the Black Temple ones have spirit and no mp5) or such as the Stainless Cloak of the Pure-Heart, Bishop's Cloak etc.

It is _possible_ to get 50% spell crit on HL without the t6 set. However, many problems in gear selection will arise. For example, you would have to take Xiri's Gift + another crit trinket such as Shiffar's Nexus-Horn or even the SSC one (40crit). There are also some cloth pieces that are exclusively crit-based, such as Blackstrike Bracers (26+gemslot).

Комментарий от chunkhead

Комментарий от Loladin

this is the nicest armor in WoW :D i wonder how does t7 and t8 look in new expansion :) but i should get this before expansion

Комментарий от blademasterjt

They need to make it work for Holy Light too. Not everyone spams FoL...

Комментарий от Oddis

As of patch 2.4 this and all other T6 sets get 3 more pieces added:boots, belt and bracers. Rather nice since you can mix around a little more to obtain the setbonus.Tho, I wouldn't mind seeing a 8/8 set bonus to "reward" those who choose to use 8/8 parts.

Комментарий от Dalus

Chestpiece drops off Illidan Stormrage in Black Temple (End boss)

Gloves drop off Azgalor in Mount Hyjal (Fourth boss)

Helm drops off Archimonde in Mount Hyjal (End boss)

Leggings drop off The Illidari Council in Black Temple (Eighth boss)

Shoulders drop off Mother Shahraz in Black Temple (Seventh boss)

Bracers drop off Kalecgos in Sunwell Plateau (First boss)

Belt drops off Brutallus in Sunwell Plateau (Second boss)

Boots drop off Felmyst in Sunwell Plateau (Third boss)

Комментарий от Saheara

So, could I use the meta gem in the meta gem socket if I had only partially filled the others? Like say:

2 Red1 Blue

And everything else is empty? Would it work for this ---> http://www.wowhead.com/?item=25897

Комментарий от Windserpent

Yup.Your comment must be 10 characters long? Doot doo dooo, doot doo dee...that oughta do it.

Комментарий от saaltaani

W00T!!! My friend got this set after some serious raiding in our guild and we absolutely love it. He heals so well due to the crit bonuses that he can be a Main Healer in some of the raids we run. Blizz ftw!!!

Комментарий от Tieran

I think most paladins will agree with me that the 4 pieces of this set that are the keepers for the set bonus are the bracers,feet,belt and chest.

This is chosen specifically because they have the best stats for Holy paladins, and free you up to get some of the Sunwell drops.

But I have a question for you guys now.

What, in your opinion, are the best rings/ring combinations for holy paladins in game at the moment.

I don't think that the Scales of sand rep ring is better than a second Blessed Band of Karabor and as such I have that for my prot gear.

I am not sure about the Ring of Calming Waves - I get enough Crit from other pieces of gear, and aside from some stat differences I think the ring from Felmyst is virtually the same as the two Blessed Bands.

Am I missing any?

Tieran

Комментарий от astrid

8/8 Lightbringer Raiment.

Комментарий от Ultimateclaibur

Crunched the numbers to compare the Raiment with the Sunwell healing set.

Sunwell healing set:http://www.wowhead.com/?item=34167 (legs) from Kalecgoshttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=34193 (shoulders) from Eredar Twinshttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=34395 (chest) drop from M'uru + Sunmotehttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=34240 (glove) from M'uruhttp://www.wowhead.com/?item=34243 (helm) from Kil'jaeden

The difference (including socket bonuses) between keeping the Raiment and wearing all of the Sunwell Set is:

+571 Armor+16 Sta+21 Int+28 Heal-73 SpellCrit+98 SpellHaste+30 Mp5and Loss of the +5% healing increase to Flash of Light set bonus.

Комментарий от robur

@Marow:

"Uh, I have 42% in kara epics"

You running a different Kara than the rest of us?

Комментарий от gbeez

This is the Paladin tier 6 healing armor. As of now, these set bonuses are by far the best ones we have ever received from tier armori have it on my pally

Комментарий от FinnrSlayer

______ of The Forgotten Conquerer - Priest - Paladin - Warlock ______ of The Forgotten Protector - Warrior - Hunter - Shaman______ of The Forgotten Vanquisher - Mage - Rogue - Druid

You can exchange the Tokens to gear at Enterance of Hyjal Summit.Also Exchangable for Season 2 Parts or S3 BG parts

Комментарий от Tunasaladin

This armor set is especially useful for PvP if you happen to possess the right pieces.

The idea is to obtain the 4 piece bonus from both the Gladiator set and the Lightbringer Raiment. To accomplish this, you need to replace the honor pvp pieces (bracer, belt, boots) with Lightbringer ones. The 4th Lightbringer piece to accomplish this task is a toss up between the helm, shoulders, legs, or gloves. I would strongly suggest either one except the gloves, since the 2% crit to flash of light bonus from Gladiator gloves are hard to give up.

With the gloves set as Gladiator, the three other pieces to wear to complete the 4 piece Gladiator bonus would be from the set of helm, shoulders, chest, and legs.

Therefore the most ideal setup with max PvP healing potential would be similar to that of:-Brutal Gladiator's Ornamented Headcover-Brutal Gladiator's Ornamented Legplates-Brutal Gladiator's Ornamented Gloves-Brutal Gladiator's Ornamented Chestguard-Lightbringer Treads-Lightbringer Belt-Lightbringer Bracers-Lightbringer Pauldrons

Final set bonuses obtained would be:- +35 resilience- Increases the healing from your Holy Shock spell by 30%.- Increases the critical strike chance of your Holy Light ability by 5%.- Increases the healing from your Flash of Light ability by 5%.

Комментарий от Hetarow

Heres a secret i'm discovering. BT/MH t-6 is garbage compared to sunwell t-6 items. Its very common for most classes(depending on spec) to replace the t6 from bt/mh with swp pieces and replace the old with offset pieces.

FueledKhadgar US

Комментарий от Praaga

This is a nice armor:D i have it on my main:D

Комментарий от darkprincess1390

All I can say about this set is... "Wow!" Makes me want to play my paladin more so I can get this stuff.

Комментарий от Tamortesse

Sadly, recently (not 100% sure when as I wasn't really paying attention to set bonuses) Blizz decided that being able to wear belt+bracer t6/4p t7 was too OP and changed the order of the bonuses so that now in order to garner the full bonus to crit one has to severely gimp your ability to heal in t7 raids. I had been wearing 2p t6 to get the extra crit but now it seems my Lightbringer Belt and Lightbringer Bracers will join the rest of the raiment set in my bank and only will be brought out for fun. *sigh*

Комментарий от fabiwk

So where can I get it?

Комментарий от Zukai

one of the best looking pally sets ever, until we see what t10 for pallys looks like anyway

Комментарий от Tedpurvin

lol I think t10 looks like tin mans outfit XD

Комментарий от Synthunas

Tier 6 Paladin, Warlock and Preist Armour Token Drops.

Chestguard of the Forgotten Conqueror

Illidan Stormrage<The Betrayer>Black Temple - 66%

Pauldrons of the Forgotten Conqueror

Mother ShahrazBlack Temple - 66%

Leggings of the Forgotten Conqueror

Gathios the ShattererBlack Temple - 34%

Veras DarkshadowBlack Temple - 34%

Lady MalandeBlack Temple - 29%

Gloves of the Forgotten Conqueror

AzgalorHyjal Summit 62%

Helm of the Forgotten Conqueror

ArchimondeHyjal Summit - 68%

Belt of the Forgotten Conqueror

BrutallusSunwell Plateau - 66%

Grand Warlock AlythessSunwell Plateau - 17%

Lady SacrolashSunwell Plateau

Bracers of the Forgotten Conqueror

Grand Warlock AlythessSunwell Plateau - 12%

Lady SacrolashSunwell Plateau - 11%

Sathvarr the CorruptorSunwell Plateau - ?%

Boots of the Forgotten Conqueror

FelmystSunwell Plateau - 59%

Lady SacrolashSunwell Plateau - 16%

Grand Warlock AlythessSunwell Plateau - 13%

Комментарий от Azavari

For looks and transmogging, wear this with the Tabard of Ramkahen/Stormwind Tabard if you're Alliance. Looks pretty cool imo :)

Комментарий от Sorcelia

I believe that the Blade of Savagery and from the Mother Shahraz boss in Black Temple and the Sunward Crest from being exalted with the Shattered Sun Offensive is the ideal sword/shield combination for this set, transmorg wise. :)

Комментарий от Bogdanov89

Paladins looking to obtain this armor can do so rather easily - all except 3 bosses died very easily to my paladin's mighty attacks!

All the pieces drop from bosses (or from trash) in Black Temple, Battle for Mount Hyjal (Caverns of Time) and the Sunwell Plateau.

As a lvl90 (ilvl 489) the only bosses i had any trouble with were:

1. Brutallus in Sunwell - i suggest going Prot for this one, he stacks a mighty debuff on you that will make him hit for over 200,000 damage. Divine Shield removes the debuff.

* There is a fragile ranger trash mob in the Sunwell called Slayer that applies a physical DoT that drains a % of your max health.You MUST either remove the debuff or heal - it does over 100% max health damage.

I suggest taking talents/glyphs that will provide you with the most burst - secondary option would be self healing.

Комментарий от Gryhut

For those working on transmog and who are running the raids to get the old Lightbringer Raiment tier 6 raid set here's a list of where do go, who to kill, what to pick up and where to return:

Ofc this also applies for the Lightbringer Armor and the Lightbringer Battlegear since they are all the same :D

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Head:

Exchanged for: Helm of the Forgotten ConquerorExchanged from: TydormuDropped by: ArchimondeWhere: Hyjal Summit

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Shoulders:

Exchanged for: Pauldrons of the Forgotten ConquerorExchanged from: TydormuDropped by: Mother ShahrazWhere: Black Temple

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Chest:

Exchanged for: Chestguard of the Forgotten ConquerorExchanged from: TydormuDropped by: Illidan StormrageWhere: Black Temple

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Wrists:

Exchanged for: Bracers of the Forgotten ConquerorExchanged from: TheremisDropped by: Grand Warlock Alythess and Lady SacrolashWhere: Sunwell Plateau

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Hands:

Exchanged for: Gloves of the Forgotten ConquerorExchanged from: TydormuDropped by: AzgalorWhere: Hyjal Summit

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Belt:

Exchanged for: Belt of the Forgotten ConquerorExchanged from: TheremisDropped by: Grand Warlock Alythess and Lady Sacrolash and BrutallusWhere: Sunwell Plateau

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Legs:

Exchanged for: Leggings of the Forgotten ConquerorExchanged from: TydormuDropped by: Gathios the Shatterer and Lady Malande and Veras DarkshadowWhere: Black Temple

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Boots:

Exchanged for: Boots of the Forgotten ConquerorExchanged from: TheremisDropped by: Grand Warlock Alythess and Lady Sacrolash and FelmystWhere: Sunwell Plateau

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Hope that its helpful for some of you, and if nothing else makes a central searching link for those looking to get this set which is quite popular, and lets face it - one of WoW's Bests! (let me know if I made a mistake)

ru.wowhead.com